This is a question we get on occasion, Pastor John, and it's a question our friend John

Knight has asked us to address on APJ in the past.

John is a dear colleague of ours, a desiring God, and so Pastor John was with severe cognitive

impairment in those in our churches, young men, young women who cannot articulate a testimony.

What's the threshold a credo Baptist church would hold to in deciding whether or not to

baptize such an individual?

I'm really glad parents have sent this in, I'm glad John Knight underlined it for us,

and here's, it gives me a chance to just say a little bit of a wider picture.

So let me start general and get right down to the specific of a, of a, of a, say a child

or an young adult who's mentally disabled.

I want to say first that a church that's about to tackle this, and either, baptisers

are not baptized, a person with cognitive impairment needs to teach widely on baptism

faith, disability, so you don't spring this on your congregation, shouldn't come out

of nowhere.

This is a golden opportunity for a pastor to bring the sorrows and the joys of these families

before the church and put the whole question in the bigger context of God's sovereignty

and his goodness and his ability to take the hardest situations and show his all sufficiency

in them.

So that's the first thing I'd say is put this issue in the bigger context of disability

and God's sovereign goodness in your church, and then the second thing I'd say is deal

with believers baptism before you try to deal with a marginal issue in believers baptism.

We believe, we baptists believe that before Jesus inaugurated the new covenant in, in

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