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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

Being Michael Jordan with David Roth and Joel Anderson

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

MS NOW, Chris Hayes

Msnbc, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Government, Politics, Chris Hayes, Why Is This Happening?, Withpod, Versant, Ms Now, News, Society & Culture, Versant Media

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2020

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

What is the toll of becoming one of the most recognizable figures in the world? What are the downfalls of that level of fame? This week, we thought we'd try something a little different and discuss one of the most popular pieces of pop culture to come out in the era of physical distancing: ESPN's docuseries on Michael Jordan. "The Last Dance" paints a compelling portrait of the corrosive nature of fame and what's left when you get everything you want. Joel Anderson's article in Slate titled "Michael Jordan Is Exactly Who I Thought He Was" and David Roth's work recapping the series for Vulture both caught Chris' eye, so he brought them on to discuss the life and legacy of #23. RELATED LINKS: Follow David Roth on Twitter Follow Joel Anderson on Twitter Listen to Joel Anderson host Season 3 of Slow Burn: Biggie and Tupac

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0:00.0

My takeaway from this is like,

0:01.3

you don't actually wanna be like Mike.

0:03.3

This is a guy who's so driven and so talented

0:06.6

and so single-minded and so compulsively competitive.

0:09.8

All of these things ran together to create this once

0:12.7

in a lifetime, once in history level of excellence

0:16.6

that like actually you probably just wanna

0:19.0

like have actual friends and like a good relationship

0:21.4

with your spouse and your kids

0:22.8

and like be good at what you do but not Michael Jordan.

0:26.2

Hello and welcome to Wise's Happening with me,

0:29.2

your host Chris Hayes.

0:30.5

Yet another week here in the quarantine closet,

0:32.9

although the weather is improving, time is passing,

0:36.0

spring is here, the blossoms are on the trees,

0:38.7

the sun is in the sky, the birds are chirping.

0:41.2

I'm in a good mood, I'm in a better mood than I've been.

0:43.7

I was in a kind of a dark mood with the rain

0:46.4

and the cold and all that and the quarantine.

0:48.4

But I don't know, I don't know what it is.

0:51.4

I'm in a good mood, I'm in a better mood than I've been.

0:53.2

I was in a kind of a dark mood with the rain

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