Being in the World But Not Of the World | An Interview with John Eldredge

Leading Saints Podcast

Leading Saints

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

John Eldredge is a New York Times bestselling author, counselor, and teacher who has inspired millions to go deeper in their relationship with Jesus. He is also president of Wild at Heart, a ministry devoted to helping people discover the heart of God, recover their own hearts in God's love, and learn to live in God's kingdom. John and his wife, Stasi, live in Colorado Springs, Colorado. His new book, Experience Jesus. Really. is available now.

Links

Reconnecting with God as a Distracted Church Leader | An Interview with John Eldredge
Helping Others Restore Personal Worship & Connection with God | An Interview with John Eldredge
Experience Jesus. Really: Finding Refuge, Strength, and Wonder through Everyday Encounters with God
Wild at Heart: Discovering the Secret of a Man’s Soul
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Highlights
John shares insights from his extensive background as a therapist and author. He encourages listeners to embrace a more experiential relationship with God. John argues that many Christians overlook the importance of intimacy with the divine, often focusing too heavily on intellectual understanding. By inviting God into everyday decisions, individuals can cultivate a deeper spiritual life and seek joy and connection with God in their daily lives.

01:50 - Introduction of John Eldredge
02:30 - John's Background and Work
04:00 - Impact of "Wild at Heart"
05:00 - Evolving Insights on Men's Needs
06:30 - Addressing Modern Challenges for Men
08:00 - The Importance of Validation for Men
09:30 - Engaging Men in Spiritual Discussions
11:00 - Check-in Practices for Men's Groups
12:30 - Spectrogram Activity Reflection
14:00 - Addressing the "I'm Fine" Mentality
15:30 - Entry Points for Men's Retreats
17:00 - Importance of Purpose and Meaning
18:00 - Introduction to "Experience Jesus Really"
19:30 - The Trilogy of John's Books
20:30 - The Need for Experiential Faith
22:00 - The Impact of Internet Life on Spirituality
23:30 - Seeking Rest in God
25:00 - The Role of Desire in Spiritual Life
26:30 - The Concept of Spiritual Amphibians
28:00 - Inviting God into Daily Life
29:30 - The Importance of Mysticism in Faith
31:00 - Understanding Mysticism in Christianity
32:30 - The Need for Experiential Connection with God
34:00 - Ordinary Mystics and Childlike Wonder
35:30 - The Relationship Between Left and Right Brain
37:00 - The Role of Relational Connection in Faith
38:30 - Reframing Mysticism as Experiential Faith
40:00 - Finding God in Creation
41:30 - Communing with God Through Worship
43:00 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts on Experiencing God

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