Hey fam, it's me, Amara Jones. Welcome to the TransSash podcast, a show where we tell trans

stories to say trans lives. We all know that on this show we talk a lot about the joys and

challenges of navigating the world and trans bodies. But we know that on this show, we talk a lot about the joys and challenges of navigating the world in trans bodies.

But we know that not all bodies are treated the same, nor valued historically, in the United States.

So what does it look like to survive and thrive as a fat and trans person of color?

Well, today we're diving into that, into this underappreciated intersection of identities.

First, I'll talk with theorist and storyteller Deshaun L. Harrison about the history and politics

of anti-fatness, anti-blackness, and transphobia.

Trans kids are punished for the idea of wanting to be in bodies that feel affirming to them,

but fat kids are punished in different ways for being in bodies that we cannot see as deserving of being affirmed.

Next, I'm joined by artist and plus-sized model, Miss Mojo, who shares her experience,

finding love for her body through womanhood.

My fatness literally is desired.

It's desired.

You know, Khalis says her milkshake brings out of place to the yard.

Well, I know what she's talking about.

But before we get to these incredible conversations,

let's start out, as always, with some trans joy.

Yeah. Today I wanted to highlight someone who is the true embodiment of fat and trans joy.

Jordan Underwood is a non-binary model, multidisciplinary artist, and activist based in Brooklyn. When they're not modeling for places like Planned Parenthood and Refinery 29,

Jordan is unapologetically tearing down fat-phobic stereotypes

for their 3 million TikTok followers.

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