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Futuro. Before Saida Rivera and I sat down to talk, we did something, well, kind of unusual for an interview.

She asked to cleanse our recording studio.

Any energies that were in this room before this moment be cleansed.

And that's because Zayda is a brouja.

She's a witch. Today, I call on benevolent ancestors to enter this room and join me.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Once the ancestors had been invited to join the space and the room had been cleansed, I stepped in, and I also did something unusual.

So shoes her off.

I took off my six-inch platform heels.

Our interviews. Our interview started with a limpa, a cleansing.

Let us begin.

Zytha is performing an egg limpia.

I was going to ask if you ever had one.

My mom did a lingua de webo, like when I was a little girl.

But there are, in fact, many different kinds of limpias,

because all of this has been around since before the colonization of Latin America.

But I haven't had one in several decades. Okay. At their core, limpias are indigenous health and spiritual practices. And limpses are good

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