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But a legacy is not what you leave in their bank account. A legacy is what you've

deposited in their hearts and so the only way to do that is through a

relationship. I want kids to know I want anybody around me to know I want my

grandkids to know there's nothing you can do to make me love you more and

there's nothing you can do to make me love you less. Mark Gregson joins us

today on focus on the family with some great advice for grandparents. Thanks

for joining us. Your host is focus president and author Jim Daley and I'm John

Fuller. John neither one of us are grandparents. That's hopefully in our future.

We certainly have kids that should be able to get married and have children. I'm

looking forward to that. Me too. And you know I have friends that have

arrived at that stage. It's got to be that same or similar feeling when you

become a first-time parent. You're overwhelmed by what's ahead and what's my

role and what do I need to do and it is a great idea to start thinking about

what kind of grandparent you want to be if you haven't become one yet or if

you are one with little ones. How do you want to help shape them? What are your

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