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The Brian Lehrer Show

Behind the Trump Administration Scenes on Abrego Garcia

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Nick Miroff, staff writer for The Atlantic covering immigration, speaks on the negotiations between the Trump administration and El Salvador's president regarding Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC.

0:13.5

Good morning, everyone.

0:14.8

Did he just say at the end of the BBC there, lunchtime, London time?

0:20.4

Isn't it like 3 o'clock there? Do they eat lunch at three o'clock

0:23.6

in England? They're weird if they do. Good morning. Again today, we will lead with attention

0:31.5

between deportation and the Constitution. There was so much at stake. There is so much at stake, and not just for the deportees.

0:39.9

President Trump was elected in part on a promise that a large majority of Americans in polls said they

0:46.5

support, agree with, that he would deport violent criminals who were in the country illegally

0:53.3

back to their home country as his first immigration

0:58.8

and deportation priority, right? But he's gone so much further than that, as you know. Deporting people

1:05.3

who they identify as criminals or gang members who haven't been convicted of anything or in many cases haven't even

1:12.3

been charged with anything in this country or their countries of origin.

1:17.0

And they've been trying to deport young adults with student visas or even green cards

1:21.7

based on their participation in pro-Palestinian protests, claiming those students impede the U.S. from carrying out its foreign policy by organizing and expressing their views.

1:33.6

There were significant developments yesterday in at least two of these cases in court.

1:38.3

We'll get into details.

1:40.0

But remember the underlying issues, which is why we keep coming back to this topic.

1:44.2

Do basic constitutional rights apply only to U.S. citizens or also to others who are here?

1:50.6

If the government flouts court orders in cases like these, what about other cases not having

1:56.3

to do with immigration?

1:58.0

The concern about authoritarian rule, call it Victor Orban type rule, perhaps,

2:02.7

is front and center in these cases. The judge, in the Mosin Madawi case that we'll talk about

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