Hi there, it's Christy Lee. I hope you're staying safe and warm these holidays, and sorry about

the nasal voice, tis the season. Today, I'm sharing an episode of a podcast I think you'll really

love. It's called Crime Story from CBC Podcasts. Each week, award-winning investigative journalist

Kathleen Goldheart takes a deep dive into a true crime case with the storyteller who knows it best.

And for this year-end wrap-up episode, that person is me.

I was thrilled to record with Kathleen at CBC Studios.

I've followed her work for years and have recommended several of her investigative series to you before, including the

no good, terribly kind, wonderful lives and tragic deaths of Barry and Honey Sherman.

In crime story, Kathleen explores complex cases with a sharp interviewing style that quickly

gets to the core of each story. A recent episode features her in conversation with an ABC journalist,

unpacking the infamous Mushroom Murders case that gripped Australia. I also enjoyed her

conversation with Amanda Knox. In this episode of Crime Story, I sat down with Kathleen to talk about

what goes into making Canadian true crime, some behind-the-scenes

details about some cases I've covered, and at the end, our favorite true crime documentaries

and podcasts of the year. If you enjoy this conversation, subscribe to Crime Story. There's a link

in the show notes.

When I started, I was ripe for criticism from other journalists and established broadcasters because, you know, they were like, who was this kind of person inserting themselves into true crime?

What are they? What are they doing?

On the website for Christy Lee's podcast, she writes that she prefers to avoid the spotlight.

And maybe when her show started nine years ago, that might have been possible.

But today, Canadian true crime is a juggernaut of a success story.

With more than 70 million downloads and hundreds of episodes,

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