And I was like, I don't think I'll ever not be tired again.

I dug like some kind of physical hole for myself.

It was scary a little bit.

So like, I was like, I got to get in better shape.

And so this last season, my buddy turned me on to the whoop.

And I got into the whoop because I was like, you know, learning about, you know, whatever, sleep, how, you know, just all the stuff that like the whoop can, you know, give you information about what you're doing right or wrong or where you're at.

I'm a kind of enthusiast. So, like, when I'm into it, like, people got competitive and so like everybody was working toward getting healthy or being as healthy as it could in these conditions.

This season you'll see it gets very crazy and very plotty and I just felt like I wanted to cool the Jets at the beginning to let it kind of, you know, where you're just like,

let's go. Like, where is this going? Then it just goes.

Okay, Mike, ho-ho, welcome to the Wooop podcast. Thank you. Thanks for having us. So, Mike, I'm a big fan of White Lotus.

I got to say, it's a pretty phenomenal show you've created.

Well, thank you.

It's killing me, but it's a lot of fun, too.

But, yeah.

What was the, like, inception of the idea?

Well, what happened was we were, it was during the pandemic and HBO was very low on content

because all their shows had been shut down because of COVID.

And they were looking for a show that they, that would have very little risk for that kind of

shutdown and so they came to me and were like can you come up with a show that's very

simple like almost like a zoom show like putting actors on a zoom or something and I was and I was

living I have a place in Hawaii and there's all these hotels that I knew that were basically

yeah abandoned because of you know know, the travel restrictions.

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