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All right, this week on Gun Talk Nation,

we've got our buddy Chris Reno with us.

Chris has been filming with us, working with us for a long time and Chris, you've

got a background in training people, you got a background in law enforcement and specifically what I thought we

jump into today is first-person defender because that's why you're down here

film with us. That's right. Yeah. I love being part of that program. So just

the backstory on first-person offender how this came to be because first person

offender if you have not seen it it is a show that we take a different good guy

in each episode we put them into a self-defense scenario

using force on force which is basically a paintball that law enforcement military used to train with so you can actually shoot at each other safely.

And we see how they did.

We give them some training up and then we run through another scenario and see how they improve.

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