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Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History class, a production of I Heart Radio.

Hello and happy Friday. I'm Tracy V Wilson and I'm Holly Fry. This week we talked about Hortons and Marie Mancini.

So this, this episode went through a process of what is the episode about because what I originally started out with was just Hortons specifically.

And then I was like, maybe it needs to be an episode on all of the Mazarinettes and then I was like, that is way too much.

But then as I was taking all of these notes about Hortons Marie just kept coming up over and over and over and I was like, I think I just need to have the episode be about both of them because their lives were intertwined so much and they did intersect with each other and so many ways.

And at different times of their life, one of them often seems to have like the slightly better end of the stick. Right. But it shifts, it shifts back and forth. Yeah.

And it also originally had in some notes about like their effects on people's attitudes toward divorce because like this was not something that women generally did and they're like while there was a legal option to have this like separation in France specifically like it.

And it was really widely available. But divorce continued to be illegal for like another almost century after they lived in France in England. I think you had to have an act of parliament to get divorced like divorce just wasn't something that

was available legal no remedy to a lot of people in Europe and continue not to be even though even after they had like broken all this new ground and published their memoirs and become famous almost like today's social media darlings.

Like their effect on on people's abilities to get out of marriages that were really abusive or terrible like that continue to be really limited.

Because you know, we talked in this episode about the affair of the poisons and how many people were accused of poisoning and how much poisoning was going on. We did like our whole first season of criminelia was about women poisoners. And I'm like, did nobody just slip these gal some arsenic they could have gotten out of those

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