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Stuff You Missed in History Class

Behind the Scenes Minis: Jane and the Clicker

Stuff You Missed in History Class

iHeartPodcasts

History, Society & Culture

4.223.6K Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Holly talks about nebulous passages in the writing of Jane Croly and her brother. Tracy and Holly talk about watching TV as children. 

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:05.4

Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of IHeart Radio.

0:16.1

Hello and happy Friday. I'm Holly Fry.

0:18.9

And I'm Tracy V. Wilson.

0:23.1

We talked about Jane Cunningham Crowley,

0:29.8

aka Jenny June this week. Yeah, and I can tell listeners about the full-on panic that I had getting your email because I don't remember her being mentioned in the paper patterns episode.

0:39.9

If she did, it was not in my head anymore.

0:42.5

But when I saw the name Jenny June,

0:49.1

what was in my head instantly was someone we have talked about on the show before who also knew used the name Jenny June.

0:52.9

And that was the person who wrote under the names Earl and Ralph

0:56.6

Werther and Jenny June. And one of the things we mentioned in that episode, which I'd also

1:01.9

forgotten that one detail, was that he said he did not know at the time when he started using

1:10.2

the name Jenny June,

1:11.5

that that name was already being used by someone else.

1:14.5

And so, like, we mentioned Jane Cunningham Crowley in this other episode.

1:20.0

I had forgotten that one detail.

1:21.2

So when I just, I opened my email this morning, and I just saw a file name called Jenny June.

1:26.1

I was like, oh, no, did we accidentally repeat an episode topic?

1:32.4

No, it is, in fact, a different person. Yeah. I am very, very fascinated by Jane Crowley.

1:40.5

Yeah. Because there are ways in which I'm like, I get you. Baby, I get you.

1:45.0

And there are other ways when I'm like, you are a snit.

1:47.5

I will confess throughout all of the research in my head,

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