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Hello, this is the Red Box Podcast. I'm Matt Shorty, the morning after the night before. Well, he survived.

Sort of. It's quite bad. 140 Tory MPs voting against Boris Johnson's vote of confidence.

How did the day actually unfold? And our big thing today, I spent the whole day in pun.

It's an old school, Red Box Podcast. It's spent the whole day in Parliament, chronicling what was happening, counting down to that result and bringing you reaction after.

So that's coming up on our big thing. First though, as ever, we kick off with the columnist panel. David and one of us is still a way.

It is spa break. It's been a very long time. So we've still got Daniel Finkelstein joined this week by Patrick Kitt.

The columnist on times radio.

Yes, every time. At this time, every Tuesday, we always picked two of our favorite columnists.

Normally, it's Finkelvitch, but David and one of us is still on the longest spa break ever. But Danny Finkelstein's here. Hello, Danny.

Hello. And joining us again. Patrick Kitt, time's diary column editor. How are you?

You're on the wrong mic. I don't know. I don't worry.

There we are. The little red light should have given it away. It's nice to have you both here.

No votes of confidence against you, Patrick. What should we possibly talk about?

Danny, your reaction to the result, 148 conservative MPs voting. They don't have confidence in the conservative prime minister.

Well, one or two people have said that this is the worst possible result for the conservative party.

And I don't agree with that, actually, because my view is the worst possible result would have been nobody voting no confidence in the prime minister.

The truth is that it shows at least 148 people get it, even if that's not enough.

Obviously, it's not the best result for the conservative party, which would have been for more than 180 conservative members to vote against or at least in my view.

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