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🗓️ 25 July 2025
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Today’s show:
Jason’s back and filling us in on his experiences in Washington DC, at the All-In AI Summit, including getting a Trump shoutout from stage, debating immigration with VP Vance, and calling out Sec. Wright for dismissing solar power.THEN Jason and Alex talk about the immense promise of open-source robotics and check out Hugging Face’s Reachy…PLUS picking apart the White House’s new AI-related executive orders, why Jason is afraid of China repeating its Huawei success, a free exchange about tariffs vs. free trade, AND a pressing query from a founder on Reddit: how bad is it to add AI to your product too early?
Timestamps:
(0:00) INTRO, Alex updates Jason about all this week’s TWiST 500 interviews
(03:33) Inside Jason’s experiences at this week’s All In AI Summit with POTUS!
(05:33) Jason’s back and forth on solar power with US Energy Sec. Chris Wright
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(16:54) Jason asks AMD CEO Lisa Su about reaching “superintelligence” and whether it could trigger an unemployment crisis
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(23:42) Jason says… any time you have to wait days or weeks for a service or product, there’s a MASSIVE opportunity.
(26:16) What do Trump’s new AI executive orders actually say?
(27:27) Which EO’s are red meat for Trump’s base, and which ones are likely to become laws and have real impact?
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(35:17) How Huawei went worldwide and why Jason doesn’t want that to happen again with AI.
(38:32) Jason and Alex have a little tariff vs. free trade debate.
(47:03) VP Vance complained about US tech companies laying off Americans, then hiring immigrants; Jason gives his take
(53:35) Jason answers a Reddit question: Is adding AI to your product too early a TRAP?
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0:00.0 | Here's the thing about H-1B visas versus American college graduates. |
0:04.3 | H-1B visa are going to get paid 30, 40% less. |
0:08.4 | And because you have, they essentially become indentured servants. |
0:13.6 | If they don't find a new job within 30 days of being laid off, they're kicked out of the country with their family. |
0:18.4 | It's incredibly cruel and unnecessary. |
0:21.3 | They should have at least six months to find a new job. |
0:24.8 | A minimum, minimum. |
0:26.8 | Like, it's ridiculous. |
0:28.2 | So the people I know who are abusing the H-1B visa system and other systems like this, |
0:35.1 | I have heard people explicitly in my career say, |
0:37.7 | we're going to get these people because we can work them harder and they don't have any |
0:42.4 | recourse. |
0:43.9 | You know, to call them indentured servitude or slaves, maybe a little bit hyper, it's obviously |
0:48.8 | hyperbolic, but they are less empowered workers. |
0:54.4 | And I would say significantly cheaper and less empowered. |
0:58.8 | So J.D. makes a good point. |
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