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Behind the News: Yanis Varoufakis on the Need for a Progressive Internationalism

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🗓️ 22 December 2017

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Doug Henwood explains the bitcoin craze, and then ex-finance minister of Greece Yanis Varoufakis ties up some loose ends on Adults in the Room, and discusses the need for a progressive internationalism.

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0:00.0

The Oh, Hello and welcome to Behind the News. My name is Doug Henwood. Just one

0:36.4

guest today a familiar one. The Economist and former Greek Finance Minister

0:40.0

Janus Verifocchis will tie up a few loose ends from our interview in October about his books

0:44.5

adults in the room, and then we'll address the lack of thinking around a progressive

0:48.7

internationalism. But before that I'm going to indulge in a rare bit of holding forth on my own on the topic of Bitcoin.

0:55.0

I thought of having a guest do that, but since I wrote a piece in the topic for the nation back in 2014,

1:00.0

and I've been keeping up with it ever since, I thought that I was as qualified as anyone to do the work.

1:05.0

Some of what I'm about to say is drawn from that article, but it's updated with material from the shimmering present.

1:11.0

Bitcoin, once a fairly arcane topic, is now everywhere.

1:15.4

The market pundit Robert Practor, who is a great psychologist of financial markets, despite

1:19.6

being a devoted follower of I and Rand and believing in a piece of superstition called the

1:23.1

Elliot Wave theory, once argued that in the course of a major bull market there's

1:27.5

something called a point of recognition when the general public hops on board.

1:31.5

When that happens it means it's getting late in

1:33.5

the run and it's time for pros to think about getting out. Though a serious

1:37.0

mania can go on well after John and Jane Q get involved. It sure seems like we're

1:41.2

at or even beyond that point with Bitcoin, whose price trajectory over the last few years

1:45.7

resembles some of history's great manias like the Dutch tulip bulb frenzy of the 1630s,

1:50.9

the South Sea bubble of the 1710s in the US stock market orgies of the 1920s and 1990s.

1:57.6

What's going on?

1:58.6

Before getting into the details, I should say that money in general is not a simple topic. Most people have a good

2:04.0

understanding of how gold, which is something of a primal money, is mined, refined, and shaped

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