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The Hello and welcome to behind the news. My name is Doug Hinwood. As part of our ongoing efforts to search a possible for its possibleness, we've got two guests in two segments today, but just one topic, whatever is going on with the peace negotiations with Iran.

We'll get the perspectives of two behind the news regulars, Anato Levin and Muin Rabani. There's some overlap in these two interviews, in

topics certainly, and in some of my questions as well, and even, I'm sorry to say, in a little

joke. Considerate variations on a theme. Negotiations to end the joint U.S.-Israeli war in Iran

are proceeding with some opacity. There were leaks about what was being discussed before

the text of the Memorandum of Understanding, the MOU, was released, and when that text emerged, it

wasn't clear how authentic at all was. Almost every day, Trump makes some claim on truth social,

amidst all his posts about the reflecting pool, his major obsession of the moment, about an Iranian concession

that Iran denies, and almost as often he utter some grotesque threat that it's forgotten hours later.

And then we have both Trump and his sidekick Vance, launching criticisms of Israel of a sort

no president or vice president has ever made. What is going on here? Is there a coherence behind

the froth and turmoil? Are the criticisms of Israel serious, or are they meant to manage increasing

domestic unhappiness with our relations with that country? And where does this apparent

Iranian victory, or if not quite that, U.S. loss leave U.S. imperial power. These are questions that today's guests

are highly qualified to address. Before that, a few comments on current events. First, greetings from

New York City, where we just had a fabulous primary election. Almost every candidate the New York

City branch of the Democratic Socialist of America endorsed, one,

nine out of ten state legislative races, and two out of two for Congress. This, of course, follows

the election last year of Zoran Mamdani, which wasn't entirely DSA's doing, but it was a crucial

part of the effort. I should say I've been a DSA member for years, though I derive no material benefit from

that status, just spiritual nourishment. These are historical results, though now the victors have to

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