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Behind the News: Riots in France w/ Harrison Stetler

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Socialism, History, News, Left, Jacobin, Alternative, Socialist, Politics

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Harrison Stetler discusses recent riots in France. Peter Turchin, complexity theorist and author of End Times, explains why the US is heading for a smashup.


Behind the News, hosted by Doug Henwood, covers the worlds of economics and politics and their complex interactions, from the local to the global. Find the archive online.



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0:00.0

I

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Hello and welcome to Behind the News. My name is Doug Henrywood. That was a special version

0:37.6

of the theme, a cover version I found on Instagram a while back performed by my fellow Brooklyn

0:41.9

ite Christian Kale. I was flattered and charmed, and there it was with his permission.

0:46.6

The original, by the way, is, well, Shisha Jay, our beginning, by Obo Addie from the

0:51.1

album Pieces of Africa by the Chronos Portet. A non-standard theme, but a standard pair

0:56.3

of guests today. Harris's stettler will explore the causes of the riots in France and

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late June or July. And the complexity scientist Peter Turchin will deploy some models to explain

1:06.8

why the U.S. is heading for a crisis and possible collapse.

1:10.8

First France. I'm a bit late getting to this, but that's one of the challenges of a weekly

1:14.8

show. In what sounds like a very American story on June 27th, a French cop shot and killed

1:20.7

a 17-year-old named Nahel Merzou after a routine traffic stop in the Paris suburb of

1:25.8

Nonteur. Unlike the U.S., however, the word suburbs or banlieues in French is used to

1:31.4

describe zones of deprivation located outside central cities that are home to the country's

1:36.6

poorest, mostly immigrants from France's former colonies in Africa and their descendants.

1:41.8

Not all the suburbs are poor should be pointed out, some are quite rich, in fact. But

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banlieues, as nonetheless, come to signify those places of isolation and impoverishment.

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The shooting led to days of riots across the country in a vicious crackdown by the cops

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and courts. Why? What social conditions prompted the violence? Here to answer that is

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Harrison Stettler, a Paris-based journalist who's written for Jacobin, the nation, and

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the New York Times. He teaches at the University of Nonteur, the suburb where Nahel Merzou was

2:10.1

killed. Harrison Stettler, he's right, a response to a very long-standing set of grievances.

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