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welcome to Behind the News.

My name is Doug Henwood.

As mandated by the UN Security Council, two guests today.

Amjad Iraqi will discuss this situation of Arab citizens of Israel and Israel's intentions in the war on Gaza.

And Gaeorgi Durlogian will talk about the expulsion of Armenians from Nagorno-Karabakh and what it says about the creeping global disorder, part of a

World War III that he sees is already underway.

Israel, while officially the state of the Jewish people, has a population that is one-fifth Arab, mostly, though not exclusively Palestinian.

They are second-class citizens restricted in almost every sphere of life and

largely overlooked by foreigners. What are their lives like, both in normal times, whatever those are, and in times of war?

Here to answer that question is Amjad Iraqi, who describes himself as a Palestinian citizen of Israel.

He's a senior editor at Plus 972 magazine and the policy member of the al-Shabaka think tank, a transnational Palestinian enterprise.

Also 972 mag published a translation of a document produced by the Israeli Intelligence Ministry

recommending that the Palestinian population be evicted from Gaza and deposited over

the border in Egypt where they can live unwelked intense.

He'll talk about that too.

Amjad Iraqi.

First, I like a general picture of the Israeli Arab population,

or actually the name is controversial right?

Yeah the best way it says like Palestine Citizens of Israel or Arab Citizens of Israel.

And it's about a fifth of the population.

What is their general social status? So in theory, having Israeli

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