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Behind the News: Israel’s War on Iran w/ Mouin Rabbani

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🗓️ 24 June 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Mouin Rabbani explains the regional and global context of Israel's war on Iran and Joel Schalit describes the society and politics that have informed Israel's latest aggression.

Behind the News, hosted by Doug Henwood, covers the worlds of economics and politics and their complex interactions, from the local to the global. Find the archive online: https://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/radio.html

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The

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The Hello and behind the news. My name is Doug Henwood. In a topsy-turvy world, we bring you the comforting stability of two guests and two segments.

0:41.5

Today, one topic, Israel's war in Iran. Mouin Rabani, in a return engagement, looks at the regional and global angles, and Joel Shalit will explore the multiple pathologies of Israeli society.

0:52.9

Israel's attack in Iran, while not surprising, is still very distressing to anyone who

0:57.0

imagines a day when humans can live in peace with each other.

1:00.0

Heavily armed and funded by the U.S., it is, as Mouin Rabani will say in this interview, a regional arsonist.

1:06.0

It is now bombing at least five countries, the genocidal campaign in Gaza, of course, but also Lebanon, Syria,

1:12.6

Yemen, and now Iran. A country founded in violent displacement of the Palestinian population 77 years ago,

1:19.5

it has continued to wage war in them and its neighbors with little paws. At first, the Trump

1:24.4

administration looked like it might keep some distance from this latest front,

1:28.1

but support for Israel, like hatred of Iran, is so embedded in American politics that a Washington

1:33.3

quickly turned cheerleader and an increasingly likely participant.

1:37.7

What is Israel's aim in this latest war of aggression? We've got two perspectives on that.

1:42.6

First, Muin Rabani, making a return appearance after only the briefest of rests.

1:47.5

Mouin's knowledge of the region is hard to surpass. He has served in several diplomatic roles over the years and his co-editor of Jadaliyah, where he also hosts its connections podcast.

1:57.6

Mouin Rabani. Just before I pressed the record button, I got a bulletin saying that Trump is now

2:02.4

demanding unconditional surrender from Iran. They started out distancing themselves from the operation,

2:08.1

and now they seem to be cheerleading. Are there divisions within the administration?

2:13.1

They have a bunch of incompetence? Or is Trump just getting behind what he sees as a winner?

2:16.8

How do you read what the U.S. position is? To take a step back, to understand what's currently happening,

2:23.5

you have to believe one of two things, either that the Trump administration intended to go

2:29.0

to war with Iran from the very outset and the whole issue of diplomacy and negotiations with Iran and seeking

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