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Behind the News: Israel's Motives in Gaza w/ Joel Schalit

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News, History, Politics

4.71.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Joel Schalit, editor of The Battleground, discusses what it is in Israeli politics and society that’s behind the carnage in Gaza. Amy Schiller, author of The Price of Humanity, looks at what’s wrong with philanthropy and how to fix it.


Behind the News, hosted by Doug Henwood, covers the worlds of economics and politics and their complex interactions, from the local to the global. Find the archive online.

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0:00.0

The And then. Hello and

0:32.8

Hello and welcome to Behind the News. My name is Doug Henwood. Return to normalcy this week with the standard

0:38.0

two-guessed lineup. Joel Shalit explains what's driving Israel's war on

0:42.0

Gaza and Amy Schiller offers a

0:43.9

critical view of the philanthropy game. The news and imagery from Gaza are

0:48.1

horrifying. What is motivating Israel's brutality which seems unhinged even by

0:52.2

its own bloody standards.

0:54.2

To investigate that, we're joined by a longtime friend and frequent behind the news guest, Joel Shalit.

0:59.6

Joel is an Israeli-American journalist now living in Turin after over a decade of living in Germany.

1:04.0

Few of us have two homelands. He's in exile from both.

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Joel is the editor of the battleground, which aims to be a voice of calm truth-telling on European society and politics.

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He also comments on EU, German, and Italian affairs for the Israeli broadcaster I-24

1:19.1

news. His books include Israel versus Utopia, the anti-capitalism reader, and Jerusalem calling.

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Joel Shalit. What are Israel's goals in this war on Gaza? It's kind of hard to read sometimes

1:30.6

other than just a ride of destruction. The government has signaled that it at the very

1:36.0

least wants to level and reoccupy Gaza. It's not clear to what degree it will have to adjust to the fact that there will still be people there and that they're going to need social services and housing and health care.

1:50.0

We don't know what they're going to do about that.

1:53.3

This is an extremist government full of people

1:56.0

who would be very happy if,

1:58.2

Dausa was fully ethnically cleansed,

2:00.3

and some of those people are going to have

2:01.8

to be accommodated by

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