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🗓️ 22 July 2025
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Adam Gaffney, co-author of a recent article for the New York Review of Books, looks at Trump & Co.’s dismantling of health care and research. Also on the podcast, Alan Beattie of the Financial Times tries to make sense of Trump’s nonsensical trade policy.
Behind the News, hosted by Doug Henwood, covers the worlds of economics and politics and their complex interactions, from the local to the global. Find the archive online: https://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/radio.html
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0:00.0 | The |
0:07.0 | The Hello and behind the news. My name is Doug Hinwood. |
0:36.5 | Yet another two-top today. Adam Gaffney will |
0:39.0 | explore the brutal cuts to health research and care, unleashed by Trump and company, and Alan Beattie |
0:44.2 | will try to make sense of Trump's nonsensical trade policy. There are a lot of horrible features |
0:49.1 | of Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill Act. For a full catalog raison, hey, check out my article |
0:53.6 | on the Jacobin |
0:54.3 | magazine website, and some of the most horrible cuts are to health care, notably Medicaid. |
0:59.6 | And to that, Trump's associated cuts to biomedical and other scientific research and environmental |
1:04.8 | deregulation, and you have a toxic mix that will sicken and kill lots of people. |
1:09.9 | Some of these cuts are stunning. Sure, |
1:12.1 | the right has long been gunning for cuts to Medicaid. They hate giving any help to poor people, |
1:16.8 | even though a lot of people on Medicaid aren't that poor. But the cuts to research, |
1:20.9 | education, public health is shockingly destructive to society as a whole, and the amounts |
1:25.8 | saved are trivial by the standards of the federal budget. |
1:28.7 | My first guest is a co-author, along with old behind-the-news friends David Himmellstein and Steffy Woolhandler |
1:33.8 | of the Dismantling of American Healthcare published in the New York Review of Books. |
1:38.6 | They argue that while the cuts are brutal, they are to a system that had lots of problems in the |
1:42.8 | first place, and if we want to |
1:44.3 | fight them, we have to do so with a different vision of both care and research. As they say, |
1:49.5 | Sympathy for Maha, RFK Jr.'s fraudulent, make America healthy again agenda, stems from legitimate |
1:55.1 | concerns about corporations malign effects on air, water, food, and drug safety, even if those |
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