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Hi, this is Dana Stevens, Slate's movie critic,

here with the Slate's Spoiler Special podcast on Behind the Candelabra,

the new Steven Soderberg Liberace

Biopic on HBO. And joining me from Slate's DC Bureau is Dan Koyce. Hello, Dan.

Hey, Dana. How are you? You are a senior editor at Slate. I am and our resident Stephen

Soderberg, uh, completest. Yes, I was about to say you wrote a completeist column, which is to say

that you went back and

revisited all the works of Soderberg for a long consideration, including you really went

far on yours, right?

You read all of his production journals and his letters, or what was all the stuff that you

brought in?

Yeah, and I watched this crazy short he made for like Showtime in 1994.

I just, I mean, I did everything I could other than I couldn't get all of his student films that he made in high school.

But that was a completest, completest.

I mean, basically, if there was like a Kleenex with his scribbling on it, you encountered it.

Right.

And now if I was going to be a complete completest, I would have to order all the t-shirts from his new merchandising shop, which just opened yesterday as we're recording this.

Which is about merchandising all of his movies?

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