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Begin Again with Davina McCall

Begin Again Moments: Psychedelics

Begin Again with Davina McCall

FlightStory

Society & Culture, Education, Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Self-improvement

4.7970 Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2026

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

These are just two powerful moments from full Begin Again episodes. Want the full story? You can watch and listen to the complete conversations on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. In this eye-opening episode, Eleanor Mills shares her deeply personal experience with psilocybin, exploring how a guided psychedelic retreat helped her confront fear, let go of the past, and rediscover a sense of connection and purpose. From moments of surrender to profound emotional breakthroughs, Eleanor reflects on how the experience reshaped her understanding of herself and the world around her. Joining the conversation, Professor David Nutt, one of the world’s leading experts on neuroscience and psychedelics, breaks down the science behind hallucinogens. He challenges common misconceptions, explains why substances like psilocybin are classified the way they are, and reveals their potential to treat conditions such as depression and PTSD. Together, they explore the line between stigma and science, risk and healing, asking whether psychedelics could play a transformative role in mental health and personal growth. The full episode with Eleanor Mills can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsxiUp6fV_4&t=2079s The full episode with Professor David Nutt can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e82IejQ3tEI Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Just before I was made redundant from the Sunday Times, I had been on a retreat in Jamaica where I'd taken some magic mushrooms.

1:08.1

And during, it was a kind of therapeutic retreat. It wasn't just like taking

1:14.6

them for larks. It was medicine. It was seen as a medicine where you could learn from it. It was a

1:18.4

spiritual journey where you were going into taking the magic mushrooms, asking it some

1:23.3

questions, and you do three heroic doses in a week. And they call them heroic doses because they

1:29.3

want you to reach that point of kind of singularity where your ego disorders. Does that mean the

1:34.1

amounts? So it's quite a lot. Heroic doses is really going to be. So I took eight grams of

1:39.4

psilocybin and you know then I know and everyone was doing that too. So it was a lot. And what it did was

1:48.5

it kind of, on the last day, they said, you know, take away, throw away everything you don't,

1:54.8

you no longer need in your life and all kind of blow it up. And I had the sense of completely melting.

2:03.2

When I took the mushrooms, I had the sense of completely kind of melting into a golden...

2:08.6

It was like being...

2:09.6

At the time I described as being like in a big bowl of golden cream.

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