Before You Pull Pennywort, Listen to This - with April Punsalan
Herbs with Rosalee
Rosalee de la Forêt
4.9 • 564 Ratings
🗓️ 15 April 2026
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
Everyone’s trying to get rid of it—but around the world, it’s treasured as medicine. What if pennywort could change the way you see your backyard?
Pennywort (Hydrocotyle spp.) is one of those plants that many people overlook (or actively try to remove!). Yet across the globe, it’s commonly harvested and enjoyed as both a nourishing food and a traditional remedy. In this conversation, herbalist and botanist April Punsalan shares how this unassuming, persistent plant became one of her most meaningful allies.
Drawing from her background with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and years of hands-on experience with wild plants, April brings a unique perspective that blends ecology, science, and intuition. She explores pennywort’s rich chlorophyll content, its role as a fresh, nutrient-rich herb, and why she prefers working with it in simple preparations that feel more like daily nourishment than “taking medicine.” Along the way, she invites us to rethink our relationship with the plants growing all around us—and to consider what we might discover if we slow down enough to truly notice them.
April shares a simple, vibrant way to bring fresh plant nourishment into your daily routine with her Hydrocotyle Chlorophyll Refresher. You can download your beautifully illustrated recipe card for this delightful, energizing drink here.
By the end of this episode, you’ll know:
► Why pennywort is so widely used around the world (even though it’s often seen as a weed in the US!)
► What makes fresh pennywort preparations uniquely potent—and why drying may reduce its benefits
► How the botany and habitat of pennywort can help clue you in to its health benefits
► Several ways pennywort can support your health—providing benefits for the skin, the urinary system, the brain, overall vitality, and more!
► Why herbalism is as much about connecting with plants as it is about their medicinal uses
► and so much more…
For those of you who don’t know her, April Punsalan is a botanist, herbalist, author, and founder of Wild Herb Academy, an online school devoted to ecological remembrance and plant-based healing. A former botanist for the U.S. Forest Service and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, she spent years protecting endangered plants before answering a deeper call to teach.
April’s lifelong relationship with plants led to degrees in botany and more than twenty-eight years of studying medicinal and edible species. Today, she weaves together botany, ethnobotany, Ayurveda, and intuitive plant wisdom, helping people reconnect with the Earth as stewards, healers, and conscious participants in the living ecosystem worldwide today.
Whether you’ve been pulling pennywort out of your garden or walking past it without a second glance, I hope this episode inspires you to pause, look closer, and maybe even begin a new relationship with this humble plant.
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Rosalee is an herbalist and author of the bestselling book Alchemy of Herbs: Transform Everyday Ingredients Into Foods & Remedies That Heal and co-author of the bestselling book Wild Remedies: How to Forage Healing Foods and Craft Your Own Herbal Medicine. She's a registered herbalist with the American Herbalists Guild and teaches many popular online courses. Read about how Rosalee went from having a terminal illness to being a bestselling author in her full story here.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Herbs with Rosalie podcast, a show exploring how herbs heal as medicine, |
| 0:10.9 | as food, and through nature connection. I'm your host, Rosalie de la Foray. I'm an herbalist teacher |
| 0:17.2 | and the best-selling author of the books, Alchemy of Herbs, and Wild Remedies. |
| 0:22.1 | I created this podcast to share trusted herbal wisdom so that you can get the best results |
| 0:26.6 | when relying on herbs for your health. I love offering up practical knowledge to help you |
| 0:32.4 | dive deeper into the world of medicinal plants and seasonal living. My goal is that you'll walk away from each episode feeling inspired to start working with herbs |
| 0:42.4 | in your everyday life. |
| 0:45.2 | Each episode of the podcast is available on my Herbs with Rosalie YouTube channel, as well as your favorite podcast app. |
| 0:52.9 | Transcripts and recipes for each episode can be found at |
| 0:56.1 | Herbs with Rosaliepodcast.com. To get the latest news as well as fun bonuses, be sure to sign up |
| 1:02.9 | for my weekly herbal newsletter. Okay, grab your cup of tea. Let's dive in. Well, today's episode is |
| 1:10.3 | about pennywort, a plant that, depending on where you live, |
| 1:13.6 | might be something you've spent years trying to get rid of. |
| 1:17.6 | And my guest is April Poncelon, who has a fascinating background that includes botany and the US Forest Service. |
| 1:23.6 | So in this episode, we talk about why Pennymore is cherished in many places around the world, |
| 1:28.2 | why April sees it as this plant rich in chlorophyll and antioxidants, |
| 1:32.4 | and how she likes to work with it in simple everyday ways that feel more like nourishment than taking something. |
| 1:39.2 | If you've ever looked at a plant in your yard and thought, |
| 1:41.7 | ugh, not you again, This one might change your perspective. |
| 1:45.8 | If you enjoy this episode, please give it a thumbs up so more plant lovers can find us. And be sure to |
| 1:51.2 | stay tuned until the very end for your herbal tidbit. April, I'm thrilled to have you on the show. |
| 1:57.5 | Thank you so much for being here. Oh, thank you for the invite. |
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