So welcome back to another episode of before we hit record.

And I have Holly Hillier right here, Instagram growth specialist in the house.

And before you start listening to the rest of this episode, understand that this is before we hit record.

It's my attempt to let you get to know the guest experts that are coming on this podcast.

And it's not just me interviewing her.

She's also getting to know me for the first time.

So like you get to know both of us because it's just kind of lonely in the online business world.

And we hear all these names and we learn from them great things, but then we

don't really know who's who or what people stand for or the behind the themes like inner workings

of their businesses. We are humans, you know, we do have families. We do have loved ones and spouses.

We do have struggles. And this is the kind of episode where you get to just hear and get to know us.

So let's see, if my voice is new to you, hi, I'm Cuejo, the new host of the Art of Online Business podcast.

It's been this way since October of last year, and I got two links for you in the show notes below.

One would be if you're like, where the heck did

Rick go? And who are you? Well, go down to that episode and you'll learn about what Rick is doing

right now. It's a pretty fun AI project. And then you can also find another link and see what

Rick was thinking when he decided to have me as a new host. And he interviews me.

You get to learn about my background and how I learned about and started doing Facebook ads

and coaching online course creators and that sort of thing. But I can assure you that the podcast

remains with the same focus, which is to give tips and tricks and strategies

and behind the scenes, business peaks. And of course, Facebook adds advice and help to online

course creators who are just looking to scale up from, let's say, low six figures to high six

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