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Welcome to Divided Argument, an unscheduled, unpredictable,

Supreme Court podcast. I'm Dan Apps.

And I'm well-vode.

So, Will, there's been a few things going on in Supreme Court shadow docket world,

and we're going to talk about zero of them today, because as we sometimes do during the dog days of August,

we're going to have a change of pace, and we're going to do one of our book episodes.

So we are joined today by Professor Richard Primus of the University of Michigan Law School,

who is going to talk with us about his new book, the oldest constitutional

question, enumeration, and federal power. So this is a really, really fascinating book of constitutional

history and theory. So Richard, you know, maybe we could just kick it off by having you tell our

listeners the basic gist of what the book is about, and then Will and I can

better run some questions. Sure. And thanks to both of you for having me. I really like the podcast,

and it's delightful to be here with you guys. So this book is about one of the core ideas of

constitutional law, which is the idea that the federal government is a government

of enumerated powers, right? Anyone who has taken an intro class in constitutional law has been taught

this principle. If you walk into a cocktail party full of constitutional lawyers and say, well,

the federal government is a government of enumerated powers. Everyone will sort of nod their

heads along, right? What the proposition means is that Congress faces a different default rule

in legislation than the default rule that state legislatures face, right? A state legislature,

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