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The Rest Is Politics: US

Becoming Trump: Family Secrets, Roy Cohn and How to Be A Killer

The Rest Is Politics: US

Goalhanger

News, Government, Politics

4.42.9K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2026

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

How did a childhood built on family secrets, privilege, and paranoia shape Donald Trump’s worldview? What did Roy Cohn teach him about attacking, denying, and never apologising? And how did a discrimination case he didn’t win become his first “victory”? To hear the full episode, sign up at therestispoliticsus.com Join Katty and Anthony for the first episode of "Becoming Trump". New Episodes every Wednesday. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠⁠therestispoliticsus@goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠ Written by: India Dunkley Producer: Fiona Douglas, India Dunkley Video Editor: Kieron Leslie  Social Producer: Charlie Johnson  Senior Producer: Callum Hill Head of Digital: Sam Oakley Exec Producer: Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, guys, Anthony and Katty here. We're jumping on to tell you about something very exciting,

0:06.7

which drops today. That's right. Anthony and I are releasing a four-part series all about how

0:12.7

Donald Trump became, well, frankly, how he became Donald Trump. We're winding back the clock on

0:19.5

Donald's early life. We're looking at his family,

0:21.5

his mentors, the battles and the decisions that shaped the man who would go on to upend

0:27.0

American politics and all of our lives. This series is going to lay out the world that built

0:32.1

him and the worldview that still drives him.

0:35.1

And guys, me and Katty spoke for a while about which series to make,

0:39.8

but this is the one we landed on because it really gives you an understanding of Donald Trump

0:45.3

and to understand the world that made him. This is Roy Cohn, Caddy, this is Fred Trump,

0:51.7

this is Roger Stone, but it's also the fight with Ed Koch,

0:55.0

and it's also the fight with the tabloid media.

0:58.0

And it's all of the marriages too.

1:00.0

The series stretches all the way from his childhood, his years in military school, his building

1:05.0

years in New York City, all of the women, the affairs, the scandals, right up to his attacks on Barack

1:12.9

Obama and the birthrism conspiracy. And finally, his decision to run for president in 2015. So here's

1:19.6

a taster for you and to hear the whole story sign up at the rest is politics, us.com.

1:31.0

Be PoliticsUS.com. Be a killer, work hard, and under no circumstances, do not be weak.

1:36.8

Now, whose words are those?

1:38.4

Well, actually, those are the words of Fred Trump.

1:41.0

It does sound like Donald Trump, but that is Fred Trump, Donald Trump's

1:45.0

father, and he's the only man that Donald Trump truly feared. To understand someone as polarizing as

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