We will not survive if we continue to outsource our responsibility for democracy.

Right. The country won't survive. Period. And so with that toxic brew of selfishness and greed and hatred that has led to an

evisceration of any robust notion of the public good, I don't think Americans

have a clear sense of their obligations to each other. Hey folks, welcome to the Michael Still podcast. You can catch me and listen to me on Apple

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I'm so excited to welcome to the podcast today.

A good buddy, I get into some real deep conversations with Eddie sometimes and this was not any different.

Dr. Eddie Glau Jr. an educator,

author, political commentator, colleague of mine over at MSMBC.

The James S. McDonnell Distinguished University Professor

at Princeton University.

He is the author of several books,

including the New York Times Best Seller,

Begin Again Again, James Baldwin's America

and his latest

latest book, we are the leaders we've been looking for.

We get into that discussion.

What does it mean?

And who are these leaders?

And how do we ourselves play a role in fashioning them?

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