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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career

Becoming more strategic, navigating difficult colleagues, harnessing founder mode, and more | Anneka Gupta (Chief Product Officer at Rubrik)

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career

Lenny Rachitsky

Technology, Business, Entrepreneurship

51.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2024

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Anneka Gupta is the Chief Product Officer at Rubrik, a leading B2B cybersecurity company. She previously spent 11 years at LiveRamp, where she was the President and Head of Product and Platforms leading product development and go-to-market operations and strategy. Anneka also sits on the board of directors for Tinuiti and teaches product management at Stanford University. In our conversation, we discuss:

• Navigating “founder mode” dynamics in organizations

• Navigating difficult personalities and aligning teams

• The PM skill of summarization

• Giving and receiving hard feedback effectively

• The value of a positive mindset

• Tips for breaking into product management

• Much more

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Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/becoming-more-strategic-anneka-gupta

Where to find Anneka Gupta:

• X: https://x.com/annekagupta

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annekagupta

Where to find Lenny:

• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Introduction to Anneka Gupta

(01:43) Key mindsets for success

(05:30) Managing energy for optimal performance

(09:05) Founder mode

(18:26) Becoming more strategic

(27:54) The importance of decision-making

(37:18) Navigating difficult personalities

(41:38) Techniques for giving and receiving feedback

(51:01) Transitioning into product management

(54:56) Advice for aspiring product managers

(59:39) Leveraging AI tools in product management

(01:01:27) The power of a positive mindset

(01:04:30) Lightning round

Referenced:

• Founder Mode: https://paulgraham.com/foundermode.html

• Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-a-long-and-meaningful-career

• The Skip community: https://www.linkedin.com/company/skip-community/

• Rubrik: https://www.rubrik.com/

• 5 essential questions to craft a winning strategy | Roger Martin (author, advisor, speaker): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-ultimate-guide-to-strategy-roger-martin

Playing to Win: How Strategy Really Works: https://www.amazon.com/Playing-Win-Strategy-Really-Works/dp/142218739X

• Thinking like a gardener not a builder, organizing teams like slime mold, the adjacent possible, and other unconventional product advice | Alex Komoroske: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/unconventional-product-advice-alex-komoroske

Acquired podcast interviews Zuckerberg in San Francisco: https://transistor.fm/acquired-live/

• Hema Mohan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hemamohan/

Radical Candor: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity: https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Candor-Kick-Ass-Without-Humanity/dp/1250103509

• Radical Candor: From theory to practice with author Kim Scott: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/radical-candor-from-theory-to-practice

• LiveRamp: https://liveramp.com/

• Product Management class at Stanford: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/experience/learning/experiential-learning/action-learning-program/product-management

• Figma: https://www.figma.com/

• Dovetail: https://try.dovetail.com/

The Remarkable Advantage of Abundant Thinking: https://review.firstround.com/the-remarkable-advantage-of-abundant-thinking/

The Hard Thing About Hard Things: Building a Business When There Are No Easy Answers: https://www.amazon.com/Hard-Thing-About-Things-Building/dp/0062273205

• Brandon Sanderson’s books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Brandon-Sanderson/author/B001IGFHW6

Fallout on Prime Video: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CN4HV16N

• Thunderbolt 4 ( 3-meter cable): https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MW5H3AM/A/thunderbolt-4-usb%E2%80%91c-pro-cable-3-m

• Isaac Asimov: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Asimov

• The complete Foundation series: https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Asimovs-Foundation-Foundations-Prelude/dp/B01EFDEMS8

Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email [email protected].

Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.



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Transcript

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0:00.0

When people say I want someone that's strategic, what they're really saying is I want someone that can come up with and articulate a compelling and simple why behind the decisions and the direction of the company and product.

0:15.8

So that's number one.

0:16.9

And the second piece is I want someone that's going to champion and be a change agent to do things that may be hard but actually best for the

0:27.0

long-term interest of the product or company even though those things are not going

0:31.1

to be easy to execute on.

0:32.9

And I think if you have one without the other,

0:35.3

ultimately people are not going to see you as strategic.

0:38.0

Today my guest is Anica Gupta. Onica is chief product officer at Rubik, a lecturer on product management at Stanford University's

0:48.1

Graduate School of Business, and on the board of Tenuity.

0:51.6

Previously, she was President, president GM and head of product at

0:54.4

Live Ramp where she spent 11 years and joined as one of their earliest employees. A

0:58.4

bunch of former guests recommended Onica come on this podcast and you will soon

1:02.4

see why.

1:03.4

In our conversation, Onica shares a ton of powerful advice on navigating difficult

1:08.0

personalities, giving and hearing heart feedback, bringing humor and gratitude to every situation, managing your energy versus

1:16.0

managing your time, super tactical tips for how to become more strategic and how to make better

1:21.0

decisions and also how to break into product management for people that are trying to become product managers.

1:27.0

There's something in this episode for everyone and I am excited for you to learn from Onica.

1:31.0

If you enjoy this podcast, don't forget to subscribe and

1:34.1

followed in your favorite podcasting app or YouTube. It's the best way to avoid

1:37.5

missing future episodes and it helps the podcast tremendously. With that, I bring you

1:41.9

Onica Gupta.

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