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🗓️ 23 December 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I want to take you to the Imperial Valley of California. |
| 0:04.1 | It's early December. |
| 0:05.5 | WBEZ reporter Dan Mihalopoulos and producer Noah Jennings |
| 0:08.9 | are hiking along the U.S.-Mexico border. |
| 0:11.9 | So we're in the shadow of the mountain and the shadow of the wall. |
| 0:15.0 | It was this border, |
| 0:16.8 | where Commander-at-Large Gregory Bovino started his career with the Border Patrol. |
| 0:21.7 | So it looks like some people have crossed here recently. |
| 0:24.6 | Yeah. Interesting. |
| 0:27.3 | They're walking with E.D. Harmon, an environmentalist in California. |
| 0:32.1 | She lives in the desert, right on the Mexico border. |
| 0:34.8 | If you want to go in the area with the big cactus that I walked with Bovino. |
| 0:38.6 | She once did a hike nearby with Bovino. |
| 0:40.8 | She was trying to show him the environmental impact his agency was having. |
| 0:44.6 | When you were talking with him, what was his tone? |
| 0:46.2 | How was he receptive? |
| 0:48.4 | My guess. |
| 0:49.6 | But he didn't stay for the peanut butter and strawberry jam sandwiches I made. |
| 0:53.8 | He loved to go back. |
| 0:55.5 | But not before insisting on one last thing, that they pose for a photograph. |
| 1:00.0 | He wanted his picture taken with me and with all the guys that were there. |
| 1:06.4 | Bovino is very fond of photo ops. |
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