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Ultimately, God gives us 24 hours in a day and those 24 hours are filled with lots of things that we would not necessarily choose to

fill our days with boring things laundry answering phone calls clearing

inboxes and for those of us who are parents a lot of times it's spent saying the same

thing over and over and over again with our kids wondering if we're making any

difference at all. Hey guys, welcome to the real life podcast where we talk about exactly that every

single week, real life, which means some episodes might be about a fight we just had, some episodes might be about

potty training since we have two toddlers, and some might be about eschatological realism because I love thinking

and talking about

all three of those in one episode.

But we hope the show feels like hanging out

in our living room with us drinking a cup of coffee

as we discuss faith and family and culture and Jesus.

Me and my lovely wife, Alyssa, are your host and don't hesitate to hit us up or reach out on

social media to say hi or comment on this week's episode.

Enjoy.

Hey guys, welcome to the real life podcast. I am so so so so excited about today. I am

interviewing Ruth Chow Simons. Did I say that right? Ruth? It's Ruth Joe

Simons, but girl, girl. You would not know it's you're good you're

good I'm sorry I was so focused on the Simons I was like I know it's not Simmons

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