I'm Hey friends, welcome back to Truth Talks with Tara, a weekly podcast where we uncomplicate

scripture and get to know what it really means to know, love, and live God's word.

Friends, today is very, very special because since the last

time I had this dear friend on the podcast, we had not yet met in person, but we had known each

other for years, cross paths, voxed, text, all the things. But since then, my sweet friend

Gretchen Saffles and I have actually met in person and we got to hug each other at the gospel coalition

24.

So seeing her on this video screen today is extra sweet because I don't know.

I've gotten to meet her finally in person.

And you guys may have remembered our conversation years ago if you're OGs just about like applying God's word to our lives.

And so I'm ecstatic to have Gretchen back to talk about a different topic today.

But Gretchen, thank you so much for coming back on the podcast.

Can you just introduce yourself or reintroduce yourself to those listening and tell us a little bit about who you are, what you do?

And then I want to hear one fun thing that you're loving in your life

right now to be a product, like literally anything. Awesome. I'm so glad to be here. And I totally

agree when we get to actually hug each other in person. There's something about just like

being in bodily presence with somebody else and going, oh my goodness, like you're a real person.

I'm real. I'm really tall.

Oh my gosh. That's something about Gretchen. Can I just say that? So if you've ever met her or,

you know, like been to an event or even if you haven't, like especially if you haven't.

Like I wasn't expecting you to be really short. Gretchen, like I'm pretty short. Like, I'm like 5'3. I would say I'm on the shorter side.

But like, when I met you, I'm like, whoa. She's so tall. I'm 510, 5.10 for everybody who's listening. That was shocking to me because I got to you. I'm like, you're so tall.

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