Hey guys, welcome back to The Ground Up Show. I'm your host, Matt DiVela. Thanks so much for tuning in, for watching, for listening. I have an amazing guest today. Her name is Antonia Hilton. She's a correspondent for HBO's Vice News Tonight. She covers politics and civil rights. She's incredibly sharp. One of my favorite interviews that I've done in this show.

And it's her first podcast ever.

So that's exciting.

We discuss a little bit of the politics and civil rights stuff, but really more so we delve

into her path and how she got here.

I think really more than anything, it's a story of not waiting for opportunity, but of making

opportunity, of making things happen.

Even when there's no job listing that you want on LinkedIn, she went out and she found

the work that she was passionate about.

It's really, really inspiring.

And I think you're really going to like this interview.

But before we get into that, I do have a couple quick housekeeping items.

You might notice that the podcast, if you're watching on YouTube, it looks a little bit different.

That's because I don't have any tripods.

You may be asking Matt, why don't you have any tripods?

That's a good question. So I was just out in

San Francisco with Josh and Ryan from the minimalist.com. We're working on a new project. We're really

excited about it. And we were in San Francisco. And it was the last city of the stint for me with them

out there.

And I got lazy.

I left my tripod bag in the van overnight.

That was the mistake because that night I was forced into minimalism when somebody broke into our van and stole $1,000 worth of gear,

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