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Beavers could be humans' biggest ally, if we let them

Science Friday

Science Friday and WNYC Studios

Life Sciences, Natural Sciences, Wnyc, Friday, Science

4.46.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2026

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Beavers and humans tend to clash over landscape management. Pixar's “Hoppers” captures the struggle, and Oregon proves coexistence is possible.

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Flora, and you are listening to Science Friday.

0:07.0

Beaver's are having a moment.

0:09.6

Hey! What's your name, beaver?

0:11.7

Uh, Babel?

0:13.0

You want to live here. You better learn pond rules.

0:15.4

What are pawn rules?

0:16.9

Oh, I am clear in the rest of the day.

0:19.2

The new Pixar movie Hoppers is about a girl who, thanks to some far out technology, is turned into a beaver.

0:26.9

Goofiness ensues, of course, but it's really a movie about humans coexisting with wildlife,

0:32.9

particularly oversized rodents capable of reworking landscapes in profound ways.

0:37.9

So we wanted to ask, what's the status of our IRL relationship with beavers?

0:43.4

It's complicated.

0:45.0

And we might want to give it some thought, because according to my next guest,

0:48.9

beavers could help humanity out if we let them.

0:51.7

Emily Fairfax has spent her career studying these animals, and she's also

0:55.1

the beaver science consultant on the movie hoppers. She's based at the University of Minnesota.

1:01.1

Emily, welcome back. Thank you. I'm super happy to be here. You've called beavers a geologic force.

1:07.8

What do you mean by that? Beaver's are a geologic force because the scale they operate at,

1:14.4

both in space and time, is enormous. Bevers are all over the North American continent. One

1:19.9

beaver family is changing and shaping two kilometers of a stream, huge territories. And they've

1:26.3

been doing it for seven and a half million years.

1:28.9

They've been modifying things for way longer than people have been building dams or canals

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