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Overdose or Wasit

I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime stories. Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM111

When police rush to the scene of a death they find an alarming, alarming layout in the home. Was it intentional? Take a listen to this.

First responders rushed to the 13,000 block of Godwit Street in Clarksburg after reports of an overdose. It's the home of oral surgeon Dr. James Michael Ryan.

The police found Sarah Harris, Ryan's girlfriend, unresponsive. Ryan says Harris was okay when he went to bed at 10.30 p.m.

But when he came down the next morning Harris was unresponsive on the couch. Harris was pronounced dead.

Okay, I've got so many questions right there based on everything I'm hearing about the oral surgeon Dr. James Michael Ryan.

Now, before I introduce everybody to Dr. William Moroni, Chief Medical Examiner joining us out of Bay County Michigan author of American Narcan.

You can find it at recoverypathwayslloc.com and Moroni puts his money his time as effort where his mouth is.

He actually created and travels with a rolling medical lab to help stop overdoses. That's why he is so important not that the rest of our guests are not important.

But let me just ask you this very basic question Dr. Moroni before I get into the whole overdose issue.

An oral surgeon, does that name a dentist with another degree is what what's an oral surgeon is that a medical doctor.

An oral surgeon begins as a dentist and then gets training to put people under anesthesia to remove really difficult teeth.

Ordinarily in a dentist office you just get a number you get light again you get procane and then a ink tooth out an oral surgeon gets impacted teeth broken teeth and they do the implants where they you know they put the little metal screw in and that takes anesthesia.

You cannot work on somebody's mouth like that and that's what he was doing all those medicines he has. Did you say people get rope of fall at the dentist office I've never heard of that.

Well they can they can put you in a surgical suite once you get that level you mean an oral surgeon or just a dentist never never a regular dentist would never give you propa fall.

Because the law requires you monitor oxygen and EKG the regular dentist doesn't do that he just numbs up your guns and guns and pull.

I don't know I've got a bad feeling Ken Belkin can you just take off your criminal defense hat just one moment.

I know I would just not go into a dentist office and go under anesthesia or I mean I'd have to think long and hard for I want into anything but a hospital and get totally put under.

Well I think these are private discussions between a medical practitioner and their patient and you know we have to give some latitude to the judgment of medical professional you know they did swear the hypocritical.

But now I know why you're such a great defense attorney because you just you know slipped right out of that one.

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