Hello, welcome back to the double cleanse podcast, a podcast all about the influencer space

of the beauty world and whatever we want to talk about, really. I'm Robert Welsh, professional

makeup artists and content creator. And I am James Welsh, skin, Kenfusias and content creator

of 10 years. Wow. Wow. You say that every time, every time. Wow. Ten years, really.

Ten years. Is that all that's been? And that all it's been. Sorry, did you have something you were going to say? No, I was going to say. It feels like it's been 10 years since we were last here. It does. Yeah, we've grown so much. We've been through many journeys. Yes. Can I start with something I'm really jealous of recently? So I was talking to my friend over the other week, and she has a daughter

who's in, I want to say year 10 or 11. What's GCSE? 10 and 11, like you're 10 and 11. Guess what her GCSE is now? What? Beauty. What? GCSC, like hair and makeup and males. Are you sure GCSE? GCSE. It's now a new GCSE option. So you can take beauty as your GCSE. And is that class as like one of the sciences? I don't know. Why would it be classes one of the science? They were just trying it in a few different schools and they were like, you know, you have to write as a letter. Why do you want to do this? She's a makeup artist, my friend. She's, that's her full-time job. So how great that her daughter's doing beauty. She already has, you know, her makeup archery business. I just wish in school, imagine being able to do, instead of having to do, I don't know, what did we do, I can't even remember what we did. Oh, graphic design. graphic design. We folded bits of card for a long time. Right, exactly. Which now we love packaging.

We love packaging. But imagine being able to do, just go straight into beauty. I know. How incredible would have that be. Do you know, I wish they pushed more, which I think is a relatively new thing though. We did something with the British Beauty Council about this. Yeah. How STEM can lead to beauty and the cosmetics industry. And not just being a makeup parts. I've been a content creator or being, you know, being involved in that world without having to beat on. For example, so interesting, like graphic design for certain things. Yeah. When we did graphic design, I wish we went more to the like the psychology of it. Yeah. I don't know if we've ever mentioned this on our podcast,

but we had a graphics design teacher who was like,

I just love packaging.

And we would laugh all the time.

But now we're like,

we just love packaging.

We get it.

We really get it.

We were like,

that sounds so boring,

but now it's so interesting.

We had to make soap boxes.

You remember,

we had design soap. And he was, I didn't know what to call my soap. So he was like, what have you called your soap? And I went, soap. So I couldn't make a better

name. So it's French for soap. It was French for soap. He was like, okay. Okay.

I don't think I mentioned this either. Yeah. I've mentioned it to you before because I really feel like there's a conspiracy against me.

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