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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

BEAUTIFUL BRIDE STABBED DEAD: Parents Quest for Truth THWARTED

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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True Crime, News

4.28.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

A ruling by a Pennsylvania appellate court upholding the finding in Ellen Greenberg's death hasn't stopped her parents' search for the truth.

The Philadelphia teacher was found dead in her apartment, stabbed more than 20 times. Some stabs were to the back and head, and somehow the death was ruled a suicide. It was initially listed as homicide.

Why did the medical examiner change it? That is the million-dollar question. The parents do not believe Ellen committed suicide. 

Josh and Sandee Greenberg have struggled, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars, to have the rule changed, and the appellate court ruling is just one more obstacle.

In a 2-to-1 ruling, the Commonwealth Court found the Greenbergs lacked standing to bring their claim. This means that the parents can't raise a challenge, but if Ellen's parents can't, who can? In the same ruling, however, the court did raise questions about a faulty original investigation.   

It's a conundrum. If the investigation was not properly handled, how does that not change the cause of death?

Joining Nancy Grace Today:

  • Sandee & Josh Greenberg - Ellen Greenberg's Parents, Twitter: @justice4ellentw, Facebook: @justice4ellenFB, -www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-ellen?fbclid=IwAR1kH2pxp0jWpWBFD6tX9JfiWGCE-sKf9VrSGmjAltcz-g81mY7hVhqOcGo,   
  • Wendy Patrick – California Prosecutor, Author of “Why Bad Looks Good” and “Red Flags,” and Host of “Today with Dr. Wendy” on KCBQ in San Diego; Twitter: @WendyPatrickPHD
  • Tom Brennan – Private Investigator and Consultant for the Greenbergs
  • Dr. Angela Arnold – Psychiatrist, Atlanta GA. (voted ‘My Buckhead’s Best Psychiatric Practice’ of 2023) Expert in the Treatment of Pregnant/Postpartum Women, and Former Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Obstetrics and Gynecology: Emory University; Former Medical Director of The Psychiatric Ob-Gyn Clinic at Grady Memorial Hospital
  • Joe Scott Morgan – Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, “Blood Beneath My Feet,” and Host: “Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan;” Twitter: @JoScottForensic
  • John Luciew [pronounced Lucy]- (Harrisburg, Pa) Journalist for PennLive.com and The Patriot-News of Harrisburg, Pa. (specializes in true crime and cold case investigations for PennLive.com); Author: “Kill the Story;" Twitter: @JohnLuciew 

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0:00.0

I'm very tempted to say there ain't no justice, but instead of saying there ain't no justice,

0:23.3

instead I'll say now is the time to dig in and fight. Why? In the last days, a stunning blow

0:35.3

to a very loving, wonderful family that I call friends. Their daughter, beautiful, brilliant,

0:48.4

whimsical, loving, is stabbed. 20 plus times, including in the back, in the back of the neck,

1:00.2

in the back of the head, the ruling is now suicide. And no matter how much they fight,

1:10.0

and no matter how much of their own money they lay out, no matter how many private eyes and lawyers

1:17.7

they hire, they still don't have justice. In the last days, a stunning blow, the suicide ruling

1:30.2

for this beautiful young teacher has been upheld. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you

1:41.6

for being with us here at Fox Nation in Series X-Sim 111, where by God in heaven, we are not stopping

1:51.7

this fight. First of all, take a listen to our friends, Gavin Fish at True Crime. While this

1:59.2

court is acutely aware of the deeply flawed investigation of the victim's death by the City of

2:06.0

Philadelphia Police Department detectives, the City of Philadelphia District Attorney's Office

2:11.6

and the MEO, we have no choice under the law but to reverse and remand to the trial court for the

2:17.9

entry of judgment in favor of the medical examiner's office. Even so, in the interests of justice,

2:25.5

we believe that providing a detailed review of the victim's death and the ensuing investigation

2:31.4

is clearly warranted with hopes that equity may one day prevail for the victim and her loved ones.

2:38.8

You know what? If that is the law, then the law is an ass. There is no way in H-E-Double-L,

2:48.7

that that suicide ruling should have stood. They are saying this appellate court that their

2:55.6

hands are tied. No, their hands are not tied. That's why they are there to write wrongs and seek

3:04.2

justice, yet they have chosen the political, easy way out. Listen.

3:10.4

The Philadelphia Medical Examiner's office and the pathologist who conducted Ellen Greenberg's

3:14.5

autopsy, Marlon Osborne, initially ruled Greenberg's death a homicide. Weeks later, without any

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