We welcome you now to a true church perspective with Pastor G. Craig Lewis.

I'm about to drop some knowledge on you that everybody has to be able to receive.

And this may be a shocking statement

for some people, but people don't go to hell for sin. But people don't go to hell for sin. Jesus already

paid for that. They go to hell for unbelief. And he died for the entire world. So people don't go to

hell for for for sin. Whether the camera was on or off yeah

I will be smoking drinking cussing and talking about life faith and theology but where's the

space for transformation Chris if I'm coming to you I'm a drinker I'm a smoker I'm a cusser

do I get in your ministry become more of that or do I

maintain it? Where does the word then change me? Where am I shifted? Or is it just say,

come as you want, stay that way? I believe everything in moderation. I believe you can overuse anything,

right? You can overdrink water. You can drink too much water in life. Chris, no, no, no, listen to me. Listen to me. Because, because even in scripture, there are, there are admonitions to drink and be merry. Yes. Right. Have a little wine for your stomach. Say, the reason you sit because you only drink in that water, have some wine. Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine at a wedding after they had drunk the initial batch, which means Jesus did the second liquor store run. That was his first miracle. Okay. So here's the big question. Are there many paths to get to the one God?

Well, I believe, Oprah, that there are, I believe that Jesus is the way to the one God.

But I believe there are many paths to Jesus.

You know, you don't know how Jesus would reveal himself to somebody.

So I'm not into excluding people.

Jesus can reveal himself to anybody.

Does that mean that all people, all races, obviously, in your church, we see all people all races. I can't imagine that you would have 16,000 people in there and none of them would be gay.

So are gay people also included?

Absolutely. Anybody is...

It seems like we're always we're Christians but

we're always referring to sin we give too much credit to sin we give no attention

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