I'm Kate Winkler Dawson. I'm a journalist who spent the last 25 years writing about true crime.

And I'm Paul Holes, a retired cold case investigator who's worked some of America's most complicated cases and solve them.

Each week, I present Paul with one of history's most compelling true crimes.

And I weigh in using modern forensic techniques to bring new insights to old mysteries.

Together using our individual expertise, we're examining historical true crime cases through

a 21st century lens.

Some are solved and some are cold, very cold. This is buried bones. Hey, Paul.

Hey, Kate, how's it going?

It's going well.

Normally we have lots of fun chit-chat, but I think we're just going to jump right

into this story.

What do you think?

Okay, let's do it. We are in late 1800s, and we're just going to jump right into this story. What do you think? Okay, let's do it.

We are in late 1800s and we're going to be in Iowa. And I have never been to Iowa, but I would love to go to

Iowa. Have you been to Iowa? Are there murders in Iowa? Yeah, I actually did a case in Iowa. It was Williamsburg, double homicide of a couple at a holiday

inn. They were hatcheted to death in their bed. Oh, my gosh. A horrible, horrible case.

And this was the very first episode of my TV show, The DNA of Murder. And I'm confident that two other cases,

one in Illinois and one down in Mississippi or I think it's Mississippi, where there are two

single men hatcheted to death in their hotel rooms, I'm confident it's the same offender.

And pretty confident I know who that offender is, just haven't been able to get the evidence to prove the case. We talk about that all

the time with you where you end up feeling like you have such a strong feeling about it and then

there's just not enough evidence. We talked about that with the Golden State Killer case too,

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