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The Peter McCormack Show

Bear Market Analysis with Dylan LeClair - WBD605

The Peter McCormack Show

Peter McCormack

Power, Politics, Government, Markets, News, Society & Culture, Technology, Society, Inflation, Finance, Bitcoin, Economics, Money

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2023

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

Dylan LeClair is a Bitcoin and macro analyst working for Bitcoin Magazine. In this interview, we discuss the carnage in crypto in 2022 that's bleeding into 2023. We talk about the clear signs of Ponzi schemes, the lost fortunes of crypto billionaires, and how Bitcoin regains its footing in the market.

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It has been 14 years since Bernie Madoff pleaded guilty to running the biggest Ponzi scheme in history. It should have been a defining moment, and yet, we're now witnessing a tsunami of similar tragedies unfolding in crypto; a period Dylan LeClair is calling "a golden age of fraud". The cruel irony is that the industry was inspired by Bitcoin, formulated in part as a technical correction to such scams. How did this happen?

Just 2 months after Bitcoin's release in January 2009, Bernie Madoff stated at his plea hearing: "When I began my Ponzi scheme I believed it would end shortly and I would be able to extricate myself and my clients from the scheme." This may be the fundamental psychology of those involved in Ponzi schemes: it is a short-term workaround that can be resolved, and investors will be made good.

We may never know the true intentions of anyone involved in 3AC, Luna, Celsius, FTX and other companies currently in the spotlight, but it's hard to believe that anyone sane could think they could run a perpetual Ponzi. They must all have had an exit strategy in mind. A strategy where they and investors made good. But, time and time again, Ponzi schemes, bound by the realities of the market, fail.

So, what did we miss? In an industry that was built on the mantra of "don't trust, verify", how were so many people fooled? We can all in hindsight question FTX's pitch of 15% returns with no risk. But, how many of us assumed the huge customer bases and political endorsements and A-list celebrity advertising had merit because we were not the smartest guys in the room?

Maybe it takes the cold logic of a fresh analyst, unencumbered by industry groupthink, to see the warning signs. Dylan LeClair has made a number of successful calls and trades on both sides of the market. He can sense BS, has the strength to call it out, and, as a result, he has witnessed a well-deserved meteoric rise. What's his trick? Simple: don't trust, verify.


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0:00.0

Even if Bitcoin has all of this native adoption and organic use, the real driver of all of this globally is the, you know, $100 trillion of

0:18.4

forced buying of dollars because you afford your short dollars dollars it's dollar liabilities.

0:24.0

Hello there from Austin Texas how are you all doing?

0:28.0

You have a good week.

0:29.0

It's been a really busy couple of weeks for us.

0:31.0

We've been out in Nashville recording shows now

0:33.6

here in Austin and then next week I'm going to be recording the third film in my

0:37.9

series Follow the Money. We'll be making a film about mining very excited

0:41.8

about that. Anyway welcome to the What Bitcoin did podcast,

0:44.8

which is brought to you by Gemini,

0:46.1

the only place I'm using for buying Bitcoin.

0:48.2

I'm your host, Peter McCormack,

0:49.7

and today I've got Dylan Leclaire back on the show.

0:52.2

Now, I'm sure you all know who Dylan is. He is a

0:55.1

relentless producer of content, especially on Twitter, and produces all this really

1:00.8

in-depth interest and analysis of what's happening in the wider macro market but also what's happening in Bitcoin.

1:06.5

Recently Dylan has been getting into the Genesis and GPDC situation and so we wanted to get him onto the show and just talk about

1:14.4

talk about this but also talk about macro and general Bitcoin Bear Market stuff.

1:18.1

He's a great guy really enjoyed having him back on the show and if you've got any

1:22.0

questions about this or anything else

1:23.1

please do reach out to me my email addresses hello at what Bitcoin did dot com.

1:30.8

I feel like Jordan Peterson's going off the edge a bit. It's not that I disagree with him.

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