This is the labor.

Good morning, David, and welcome back to the BU Find Happy podcast.

I had such a great time visiting with you last time that I could not wait until we got to visit again.

Me either. And thank you so much for having me back.

What a huge compliment.

And there's no greater topic or subject matter than happiness for me, as you know,

being on a mission to empower so many people just to be happy.

And it's, and it's a changing thing, I think, in the world,

and the dynamic world we're living in right now.

And so one of the things that we're focused on this season on this podcast is unself-helping.

I think sometimes people can get caught in the world of chasing the next self-help

deal and never really kind of tuning in and tapping in.

And so in what ways do you think that maybe people get stuck in that spiral?

Well, I think historically, so many people have always gotten stuck in that cycle,

including me. I have garage as full.

I have a entire storage facility with what's called bankers boxes.

I know a lot of the younger people don't know what that is,

but basically a cardboard box that holds all of the self-development from undergrad

to my law school, business school, to Tony Robbins and Wayne Dyer, Bob Proctor,

and Mary Morrissey. It didn't matter who it was.

And so what I love to do now, and even when I'm on stages, especially larger stages with thousands

of people, is I love to simplify it. And when we're looking at unself-helping ourselves,

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