BBC OS Conversations: What do Russians and Belarusians make of the Wagner Group?
The Documentary Podcast
BBC
4.3 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 1 July 2023
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
Following the Wagner group march on Moscow, we hear from Russians and Belarusians.
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| 0:29.0 | Hello, I'm Crouper Bardy and welcome to the documentary from the BBC World Service. |
| 0:34.0 | We're bringing people together to discuss the key events around the world. |
| 0:38.0 | This time, it's conversations about the recent drama in Russia when Putin's grip on his country appeared to be challenged. |
| 0:45.0 | I'm mindful of the ongoing bloodshed in Ukraine, but it's been quite a week in Russia. |
| 0:51.0 | President Putin raised fears of a civil war before it was dramatically averted. |
| 0:56.0 | Although it can be a challenge to get Russians there to talk to you, that's what we've been doing, starting with those events of the 24-hour mutiny. |
| 1:03.0 | We knew it would be stopped because to even allow that a bloodshed would have started in Moscow is just something incomprehensible. |
| 1:11.0 | This is something I would not allow even for a second in my mind because it's just something that would not happen. Clearly we were right. |
| 1:20.0 | Before we get into the conversations, let's have a quick catch up, which is start with one of the main characters, Yavgeny Pregozhin, the founder and leader of the Wagner Paramilitary Group. |
| 1:30.0 | He'd become a key tool of President Putin's desire to reimpose Russian influence across the globe, and his fighters are playing a significant role in Ukraine. |
| 1:41.0 | This Pregozhin was unhappy with the most senior Russian defense officials. His groups started immutently against the Russian military and they began to march on Moscow. |
| 1:49.0 | President Putin declared the rebellion a grievous crime, treason and terrorism. |
| 1:54.0 | And in the hours that followed, there was considerable tension around the world. Russia, of course, has one of the world's largest arsenals of nuclear warheads. |
| 2:05.0 | Then, surprisingly, Mr. Pregozhin made a sudden new turn and ordered his soldiers back to base and in doing so revealed that all criminal charges would be dropped. |
| 2:15.0 | Since those chaotic hours, there's been much discussion about what this threat has done to Putin's reign. |
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