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The Documentary Podcast

BBC OS Conversations: Deepfake attacks

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary

4.32.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2024

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

After explicit faked photos of Taylor Swift went around the world, US politicians have called for new laws to criminalise the creation of deepfake images. The term ‘deepfake’ describes how artificial intelligence – AI – can be used to digitally alter pictures, audio or video and trick us into seeing or hearing something that is not real.

It is not just the famous who are being targeted. Host James Reynolds hears the story of how a daughter’s voice was copied and used to make a scam phone call to her mother.

“She said mom I messed up, and all of a sudden a man said ‘put your head back and lay down’ and that’s when I started to get really concerned that she was either really hurt or something more was going on,” Jennifer tells us. “And then she goes ‘mom, mom, these bad men have me, help me, help me and she starts crying and sobbing.”

Thankfully her daughter, Brianna, had not been kidnapped but the call has had a lasting effect on the family.

Technology has made the process of adjusting images easier but artificial intelligence provides the means to create media from scratch to generate completely fake content. We bring together two women – in the US and Australia – who have had their faces manipulated using AI to produce malicious pornographic images and videos.

Transcript

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0:00.0

In 1969, a plan to show support for an anti-racism protest turned the lives of 14 promising

0:07.0

black student athletes upside down.

0:09.8

Amazing sport stories from the BBC World Service tells their story.

0:14.0

Search for Amazing Sports Stories, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

0:18.0

Hello, welcome to The Documentary from the BBC World Service.

0:22.0

I'm James Reynolds Reynolds and in BBC OS

0:24.8

conversations we bring people together to share their experiences and this time

0:29.4

conversations on deep fake attacks.

0:34.8

As artificial intelligence gets more powerful, it's increasingly being used as a force for

0:39.6

good and bad.

0:42.1

We hear from people who've been on the receiving end of malicious intent.

0:45.4

A mother and daughter share their story of a distressing AI-generated phone call and

0:51.1

two women tell us how they were targeted.

0:54.0

There are literally people out there who have taken the time out of their day to collect images of me,

1:00.0

to find other people's bodies that resemble my own,

1:03.4

to stitch it up together, to make videos.

1:06.9

I mean, that is some predatory horrific behavior.

1:12.4

The term DeepFIC describes how artificial intelligence AI can be used to digitally

1:17.8

alter pictures, audio, video and trick us into seeing or hearing something that isn't real.

1:24.6

Taylor Swift was one of the latest to be targeted, as we've discussed previously here on

1:29.4

BBC Ice Conversations, anything to do with Taylor Swift immediately goes

1:33.3

viral. So when the technology was used to create explicit faked photos of her

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