Hello everyone and welcome to Talk Nurdy today is Monday July 16th and I'm

your host Kara Santa Maria. Now remember Talk nerdy is and will always be a hundred percent

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All right guys, we have a really fun episode coming up up the first one in a while that I got to do in studio

Because I got to interview somebody who is somewhat local although I do thank her for making the long trek to my place up in Los

Feles all the way from actually I don't know where she lives but all the way from

the work that she does in the bay. So her name is Heather Burdick.

She is the director of Marine Operations

for the Bay Foundation.

And she really works with the Marine team

supporting them on a lot of different projects involving research, monitoring, and ecological restoration.

So one of the things that we're going to be really diving deep into, ha ha, no pun intended, she dives a lot, is some

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