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The DSR Network

Battling on All Fronts

The DSR Network

Chris Cotnoir

Government

4.51.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Former CIA counterintelligence chief James Olson tells Jeff Stein the CIA and FBI need to “resuscitate” double agent ops to penetrate enemy spy services, and Jeanne Meserve talks with former senior U.S. cybercrime official Chris Painter about the rash of ransomware attacks by REvil and other Russia-based malefactors. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:17.0

SpyTalk, a podcast at the intersection of intelligence,

0:20.0

foreign policy, national security,

0:23.0

and military operations with Jeff Stein and Jean Miserve.

0:31.0

Hi, I'm Jean Miserve, and welcome to another episode of SpyTalk.

0:35.0

I'm John Dingas. I'm a member of the SpyTalk team,

0:38.0

and I'll be sitting in for a SpyTalk editor and chief Jeff Stein today.

0:42.0

His interview this week goes deep into one of the toughest tasks

0:46.0

in the espionage trade, counterintelligence.

0:49.0

He talks to former CIA counterintelligence chief James Olsen,

0:54.0

who has written a revealing book about US efforts,

0:57.0

sometimes faltering efforts to neutralize enemy spies.

1:02.0

Olsen warns that China's spy services in particular

1:06.0

are overwhelming US defenses.

1:09.0

His recommendation, more double agent operations to stop them.

1:14.0

We'll get back to that later in the show.

1:16.0

John, great to have you with me.

1:18.0

Our evil, the Russian-based ransomware gang,

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