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Battle acts: France beefs up its forces

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News & Politics, News

4.35K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2021

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

After years of peacekeeping and counter-insurgency campaigns, the country is getting tooled up and trained up for serious military conflict. The “baby bust” brought on by the pandemic has changed global population predictions; we look into the down sides of a world with fewer people. And the Benin Bronzes have become a focal point for the art world’s restitution push. For full access to print, digital and audio editions of The Economist, subscribe here www.economist.com/intelligenceoffer

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Intelligence on Economist Radio. I'm your host, Jason Palmer. Every weekday, we provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world.

0:18.2

Early in the pandemic, the question was whether a cooped-up planet would produce more babies or fewer.

0:24.0

The answer is now clear. Many, many fewer. We look into the prospect that on a planet with fewer people, there are fewer transformative ideas.

0:35.7

And a famed series of sculptures known as the Benin bronzes has become a focal point in a global discussion about the restitution of artworks to their homelands.

0:44.3

It's a debate that raises tempers and of great many questions.

0:53.3

First up, though,

0:57.0

Since 2013, French armed forces have been stationed in the Sahel, fighting jihadists.

1:07.0

France's forces have been stretched, just over 5,000 of its troops for a region roughly

1:12.9

the size of Western Europe. Such counterinsurgency operations might be challenging, but these

1:18.6

days, France's generals have their sights on something far larger. In the forests and the plains

1:24.0

of the Champagna-Arden region, the armed forces are beginning to prepare for the

1:28.2

return of a major conflict. Exercise Orion, a giant drill planned for 2023, will involve the full

1:35.4

range of French military capacity on a scale not tested for decades.

1:41.4

The specter of high-end war is now so widespread when you talk to military analysts

1:47.5

that there's an acronym for this scenario, HEM, which stands for it.

1:51.3

The English translation is a hypothesis of a major engagement.

1:55.0

Sophie Petter is our Paris bureau chief.

1:57.0

And it's really a seismic shift, I would say, for French forces, because if you think back

2:03.0

30 years ago, most of them were involved in overseas operations in peacekeeping.

2:07.9

And over the last decade, it's been a question of counterterrorism or counterinsurgency.

2:12.2

Most of that's either been in Operation Barkan in the Sahel or even a counterterror-terrorist operation called Operation Centenel in France itself.

2:21.3

But last year, the head of the army, General Thierry Berger, presented a strategic vision for 2030,

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