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Batteries Now Included

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🗓️ 22 August 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

The Trump administration has taken aim at green energy, but one technology has largely been left untouched: batteries to store wind and solar electricity. California alone surpassed 13GW of battery storage last year, and Texas has become the fastest growing market for the technology. But producing batteries isn’t without its downsides, especially when it comes to mining the necessary raw materials. The upside is that those materials can be recycled and reused. If the recycling technology can reach scale and price targets, the environmental impact would drop significantly. And spent EV batteries could become a grid scale storage site even without breaking down the battery packs. How soon before renewables plus batteries can power our grid 24/7? This episode features a reported piece by Camila Domonoske that was originally broadcast on NPR’s All Things Considered on July 10, 2024  Guests:  Julian Spector, Senior Reporter, Canary Media David Klanecky, President, Cirba Solutions Sheila Davis, EV Battery Waste Strategist, Global Alliance for Incinerator Alternatives 4:08 - Julian Spector on what grid scale battery instillations look like 7:43 - Julian Spector on the success of battery deployment in 2024 14:14 - Julian Spector on the impacts of Trump’s new budget law  20:06 - Julian Spector on the outlook for battery storage in the next decade  24:09 - Reported piece on Ascend by Camila Domonoske 28:43 - David Klanecky on the battery recycling process 36:21 - David Klanecky on competing with China 41:45 - Sheila Davis on the biggest concerns about battery production  44:56 - Sheila Davis on some of the risks posed by battery storage facilities 47:13 - Sheila Davis on the risk a battery recycling facility posed in New YorkFor show notes and related links, visit ClimateOne.org. Support Climate One by going ad-free! By subscribing to Climate One on Patreon, you’ll receive exclusive access to all future episodes free of ads, opportunities to connect with fellow Climate One listeners, and access to the Climate One Discord. Sign up today. Ad sales by Multitude. Contact them for ad inquiries at multitude.productions/ads Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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