Wondry Plus subscribers can binge all episodes of KALLIST early and ad-free.

Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts.

Hey, it's Carl.

Before we get going, I just wanted to let you know that this episode contains references to suicide and self-harm.

There are links in the show notes to resources in case you're affected by the things we talk about.

It's a bright spring day and Lisa is settling into her new flat in Bath, a small picturesque city in the south-west of

England. And after weeks of moving vans and unpacking, the place is finally starting to feel like

home. I just moved into my new flat, gotten settled and everything, and then all of a sudden I get

this text.

At first, the text looks like spam.

It didn't have an actual phone number.

It just had words where the number would be.

But when Lisa looks closer, she sees that this text contains a sinister message.

We have explicit photos and videos of you.

We want more from you.

Send more photos and videos of you of an explicit nature

and we won't send whatever we already have to your family members.

I thought it was funny. I thought it was a joke. I was quite confident that they didn't have any real images of me, anything explicit like they said they did.

Lisa doesn't pay this message too much attention. It looks like the kind of images of me, anything explicit like they said they did.

Lisa doesn't pay this message too much attention.

It looks like the kind of stupid scam message that we all get every now and then.

So she doesn't respond and gets back to organising the flat.

...