Basement: Peter Levenda | Nazis, UFOs, and the Hidden History Nobody Tells You

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🗓️ 13 April 2026

⏱️ 249 minutes

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Peter Levenda has spent more than thirty years investigating the connections between occult history, intelligence operations, and the events that shaped the modern world. He is the author of more than twenty books, including Unholy Alliance, the Sinister Forces trilogy, and the Secret Machines series co-written with Tom DeLong. His work draws on primary documents, national archives, and firsthand research across four continents. He is known for finding connections between subjects that most researchers treat as separate — Nazi occultism, the Kennedy assassination, CIA mind control programs, UFO phenomena, and the hidden religious networks that ran through all of it. The Sinister Forces 20th Anniversary Edition is out now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Today I'm talking with Peter LeVenda.
0:02.1	He's the author of more than 20 books.
0:04.4	Unholy Alliance, the Sinister Forces trilogy, the Secret Machine series with Tom DeLong.
0:10.0	The guy's been investigating the dark intersections of occultism, intelligence operations,
0:14.6	hidden history, CIA for over 50 years.
0:17.7	Yeah, he's been investigating the CIA for 50 years, and he's still alive.
0:22.6	It's either very impressive or very suspicious.
0:25.6	And it started when he was 17.
0:28.6	He dressed up as a fake Orthodox priest.
0:31.6	He talked his way past the Secret Service and snuck into Bobby Kennedy's funeral at St. Patrick's Cathedral.
0:38.8	The stunt dropped him into an underground world that he never climbed out of.
0:42.7	Yeah, he's lucky he didn't end up in a duffel bag he couldn't climb out of.
0:46.3	Peter has some of the most mind-blowing stories I have ever heard.
0:50.5	CIA fronts disguised as churches, Nazi colonies in Chile, classified documents on SS expeditions to Tibet,
0:57.0	a possible escape room for Hitler that nobody was looking at.
1:01.0	We cover a lot of ground, the assassination connections, the Council of Nine, consciousness,
1:07.0	a men-and-black encounter that takes a turn that I'd never never expected and a theory about Hitler that actually shook me.
1:13.6	I mean, seriously, I had to stop the show for a minute to process it.
1:17.6	But we kept the camera rolling. Let's go to the basement.
1:26.6	Peter, welcome to the basement.
1:30.3	Thank you very much. I'm very happy to be here.
1:33.3	My typical process with the guest is do a little reading, do some prep, get to know the material,
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