Hey, you got to try this listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hey, everybody, welcome. I'm back. It's a you got to try this podcast starring me. Large. Ian is on the ones and twos as always, making this look like it's not shot on a potato. And today, my very special guest is one of the

first people that gave me a shot here in Barstool. Is that overstating it? That's generous.

It's not fucking, I don't understand why you have to be contentious to start this out. I was sitting

there. I didn't know anybody. And I'm sitting there when I first started Barstool, and you and I had a

couple of conversations like intelligent conversations. So when there was a shot, when Willie was going

away to the 16th chapel, you had said, can I come in and sit down? Because you had some other guys who

came in. And I think that was something. Every time you get a shot here, it kind of ups your relevance.

And there's not a lot of shots to be given.

So in that respect, and I did just jump at you, by the way, don't you think like you're

one of the guys that gave me one of my first shots your content was?

I think the reason that I said what I said was because there was a really selfish motive.

I mean, I needed help.

Yeah, you did.

And, and, uh, you gave, if I gave you a shot, you gave me a life.

Okay.

Uh, because the way things were going were, was just untenable.

I was waking up at 5.30 a.m.

every single day of the week to do a live show for two hours with Willie.

And,

and we did that for a year.

And I,

I was touring on the weekends and I was writing blogs all day.

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